I could go on with many more famous hunters that preferred paper patch bullets. My paper patch hunting and long range paper patch loads for reference only. Light for the caliber bullets will work in fast twist barrels but we dont say. I have seen 2 types of conical bullets for muzzle loaders. Im glad i ordered when i did, they are now out of stock. Refining paperpatched loads for smokeless powder load data. Now, i my interest in cast bullets is rekindled, mostly for bpcr, but also would like to.
Paper patch boolits offer great advantages for us casters. Never tried breech seating chase patches in the ballard because the throat is not tapered. This series will dive into some keep facts in getting a paper patch boolit to shoot. Im not sure if either of these ideas would survive being loaded in a semiauto. It has been my experience, however, that most of the. As a ammunition manufacture, we load over 400 calibers. Note that if you are loading heavy bullets with slow powders, you may have difficulty seating the bullet deep enough to clear the rifling or fit in the magazine of your rifle.
You need to login or register to view media files and links you need to login or register to view media files and links you need to login or register to view media files and links. Accuracy i remember was good, but they slowed down enough at 300 ydrs and the wind blew them around more than my usual 150 grn pp bullets. Top long range muzzleloading targt shooters of the mid 1800s commonly relied on paper patched conical bullets. A lot of people are curious about paper patching bullets. I have sized down some light jacketed bullets i was given and roughed them with a file and paper patched them. I forgot to mention that the subsonic loads that my brother made were from lee molds dropping 170 gr wheel weight bullets. The bullets im actually interested in paper patching would be for the. A beginners guide for learning to load and shoot paper patched bullets by randolph s. It is a 2 page artice on page 108109 titled paper patched bullets work in. This last pic is of a 100yd five shot group from a 224 cal rifle. We rely on a quality products, delivery and value for our customers.
Grease groove bullets have been the most accurate type so far. Sport, sporting goods and toys industry lubricants. If you use my paper patch lube, make sure that it is as soft as butter when you apply it. Best accuracy is usually accomplished with a much closer fit, tailored to a particular firearm. Would paper patching reduce leading in s rifled barrel. Jul 02, 2009 the only paper patched bullets for black powder i am familiar with are those used in black powder cartridge rifles like a sharps 1874. The gun used is a gamo varmint hunter hp 1,400fps spring. Paper patched bullets, swaged vs cast shiloh rifle forums. Followed by the same questions about how the paper survives in the barrel. Using them will allow you to estimate the heaviestlongest. On half the bullets, i installed a gas check, while the other half did without. It has been my experience, however, that most of the cussin has been from folks with little or no personal experience with ppbs.
One of the most common rifle sizes for sale with free shipping. North american muzzleloader hunting shares a couple of ways to patch lead. This catalog is a record of molds ive made, and posted for reference. But how does one get them small enough to paper patch. The bullets im actually interested in paperpatching would be for the. Bulk 308 bullets in stock by general dynamics 147 grain fmj bullets by general dynamics for sale online at 500. In his march 1977 article paper patched bullets come of age, harrison provides a few rules for the shooter using a. Harrisons 30 caliber paper patched bullets cast bullet forum. Top long range muzzleloading targt shooters of the mid 1800s commonly relied on paperpatched conical bullets.
I also did some hunting rifle paper patching very successfully with my 358 win see other 35 cal thread. When you have a clean rag and time to wipe your hands between shots they work fine. If youre a diehard paperpatched bullet shooter, youre undoubtedly familiar with paul matthews. What started as a small dream has become a multimillion dollar international business selling ammunition, reloading supplies and accessories. Winchester reloading components are the same that are used in winchester ammunition. Bulk 308 bullets for sale 147 grain fmj bullets in stock by. Krag collectors association forum paper jacket 3040. If this is your first visit, be sure to check out the faq by clicking the link above. Paper patches let a shooter get the same velocities from lead bullets as with jacketed bullets. North american muzzleloader hunting shares a couple of ways to patch lead bullets and the papers that works best. In a fit of panic, i bought 1k of milsurp 147 grain m80 bullets online. Harrison and the staff at the american rifleman worked with paper patched bullets in the. Bullet for display purpose only, bullet not included.
I prefer to use paper patched bullets simply because they are easier to handle. Paper patch supplies, paper patch templates, paper patch paper, lead bullets, paper patch bullets. Years ago i did some of that paper patching for a 3006 spfld according to the harris developments. I lube them with the lube i make for grooved bullets, although many types will work. Gentlemen, i am about to order a mold for paper patched bullets to be used in a. I normally load the hornady 150 fmjbt and they work great.
This 308 winchester 147gr fmj ammo ideal for the shooter that hits the range or heads out for the hunt. The 308 winchester is an inherently accurate cartridge, and is at its best with mediumtofast burning powders like varget and blc2. And even paper patched some bullets for my 375 hh improved to shoot deer with. The art of paper patching, 3006 series introduction youtube. Sizing paperpatched bullets for smokeless powder load data. Most cast bullets are made of lead alloyed with tin and antimony.
The guy was right, you can size those paper patched bullets down. Much discussion and cussin have been laid at their doorstep. Anyhoo a case full of power in the 3030 and that made them bark. I also did it about 15yrs ago with a 1895 that had the microgroove rifling. Here are the benefits of shooting paper patched bullets in your inline. Paperpatching your inline muzzleloader western powders. I also wipe my own loaded cartridges with a paper towel before boxing, to prevent dust and dirt from accumulating on the bullet. Bulk 308 bullets for sale 147 grain fmj bullets in stock. Test results prove cast bullets can approach 3000f. Oct 14, 2016 paper patches let a shooter get the same velocities from lead bullets as with jacketed bullets. Chase patches have been more accurate than wrapped paper patched bullets for me. His delightfully informative book on the subject, the paper jacket, is perhaps the best resource for a. My hunting loads using swaged paper patch bullets are as follows.
Dont get me wrong, grease grooved bullets were used too, but the. Paper patch bullets were used in the 1800s for target shooting and hunting and are still being used today. Sizing paperpatched bullets for smokeless powder load. We describe another method to economically and simply custom fit the bullet to your rifle bore to make your military surplus rifle shoot. Winchester puts their components through very tedious and strict. Paper patch vs lube, black powder is paper patching a fair replacement for lube in a black powder rifle for conicals. The fmj bullet is a projectile consisting of a soft lead. Enter your name, address, and billing information for prompt shipment. His delightfully informative book on the subject, the paper jacket, is perhaps the best resource for a reloader interested in utilizing paperpatched bullets with smokeless powder.
Refining paperpatched loads for smokeless powder load. Working with lubricated bullets is messy in my experience. After hammering out the bullet, i tried moistening the bullets with felix lube, and sizing was easy after that. A cast bullet is made by allowing molten metal to solidify in a mold. Whether youre making bulk ammo for plinking, creating the perfect hunting round, or building the best ammunition for a 500 yard shot, midsouth has the right. Harris recommended load of 26 grs h4198 and see how that goes. The paper acts like a jacket and keeps the lead from smearing in the bore. These imi bullets at least hit the paper, but they did.
So, i thought i would give a quick explanation on the concept and then show my process. Perfect for reloading your spent hunting and training casings. Harrison and the staff at the american rifleman worked with paperpatched bullets in the. Be aware that due to their custom nature, many of these bullets are designed for a specific purpose or firearm, and wont necessarily fit or feed as drawn in all guns of that caliber. Hey guys, this might be a really dumb question, but can i paper patch a 147gr fmjbt. Perfect for reloading your spent hunting and training casings, the 308 win is a powerful bullet style great for a variety of applications. I have never heard of anyone using a paper patched conical bullet in a muzzle loader. Most shooters, given quality ppbs and proper loading techniques. Harrison published his findings in the american rifleman and the nras compilation tome.
May 17, 2016 myself, i prefer paper patched bullets for three reasons. Discussion in handloading and reloading started by tcoz, jul 21, 2016. Youll only need enough lube to cover the paper patch. Ive shot chase patches in my muzzle loaders and my 4050 ballard. Paper patched or lubricated lead bullets can be swaged in two basic styles, the swc shoulder style shown here, and the smooth ogive style shown below. We describe another method to economically and simply custom fit the bullet to your rifle bore to make your military surplus rifle shoot accurately. There is one fellow who shoots yds with his black powser 45 cal rifle and puts them all in the the black. Paper patched bullets ppb are probably the most controversial of all lead bullet styles. Manufacturer pmc bullet 147 grain fullmetal jacket boat tailed fmjbt casing boxerprimed brass. Killing effects of paper patched bullets in 4570 and 45. Do any of you guys have experience with these 147 grain bullets. Winchester bullets 30 cal 308 diameter 147 grain full metal jacket.
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